Where can i do teeth Whitening training, Theres a few online but how do i know they are decent?
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craigjHi guys
I have just completed my training with teethlabs training academy in Cardiff. Course was very intense but I thoroughly enjoyed it. The kit I purchased is brilliant and has produced excellent results.
Craig
I have just completed my training with teethlabs training academy in Cardiff. Course was very intense but I thoroughly enjoyed it. The kit I purchased is brilliant and has produced excellent results.
Craig
Search Treatwell for Teeth Whitening near you
Mcintyre
Stay away from smile centre acadamy myself and my daughter paid £1000 between us and it was a scam, can't get a refund, never got a receipt, had a nightmare, don't know what else to do
Mcintyre
Stay away from smile centre acadamy myself and my daughter paid £1000 between us and it was a scam, can't get a refund, never got a receipt, had a nightmare, don't know what else to do
Mcintyre
Stay away from smile centre acadamy myself and my daughter paid £1000 between us and it was a scam, can't get a refund, never got a receipt, had a nightmare, don't know what else to do
Mcintyre
Stay away from smile centre acadamy myself and my daughter paid £1000 between us and it was a scam, can't get a refund, never got a receipt, had a nightmare, don't know what else to do
James16
I trained at allwhite laser company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training
James16
I trained at allwhite laser company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training
James16
I trained at allwhite laser company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training
James16
I trained at allwhite laser company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training
James16
I trained at allwhite laser company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training
James16
I trained at allwhite laser company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training
Augustus
Hi, you can get genuine <a href="http://www.impressionteethwhitening.com">Teeth Whitening Training</a> at http://www.impressionteethwhitening.com
kells888
what to people think of Hollywood whitening or naturawhite as am thinking of doing one of their courses but don't want to be scammed.
Brown1995
I had my training with Naturawhite. Was a bit hesitant about teeth whitening after reading online about folk getting into trouble from using high % of teeth whitening. I done a bit of researching and Naturawhite managed to give me full legal advise on what is safe and what you should know when entering this as a business. The package was very reasonable on offer just now for £999. I started off with doing teeth whitening in salons, now I'be passed my driving test I do it mobile. Products are great and all my clients love there full range of aftercare care including the home whitening systems!! Guys do your research first, definitely contact Naturawhite - they've been a great helping hand over the 2 years!!
Jason1998
http://www.hollywoodwhitening.co.uk The name said it all, Hollywood Whitening! Best whitening equipment you can get
Jason1998
Hollywood Whitening offer training for £999 including 100 treatments. best whitening product you can find! The result is something else with 100% satisfaction. This is the reason why Hollywood Whitening is the leader in the industry.
Maxf206
Hi peeps im just lookin into doin my teeth whitening training... can any1 recommend who the best company is please?
Has any1 heard of LoveLite? Any thoughts on them? They use bicaronate & bi-perborate products,
or has any1 heard of teeth-whitening-training.co.uk? (they come out to me to train me) & use non peroxide gels.
I looked at that teethlabs in Cardiff but the site says theyre not training in the UK at the mo - so i am slightly confused about those that have said they DO train here?!
Thanks in advance.
Based in Wiltshire
Max
Has any1 heard of LoveLite? Any thoughts on them? They use bicaronate & bi-perborate products,
or has any1 heard of teeth-whitening-training.co.uk? (they come out to me to train me) & use non peroxide gels.
I looked at that teethlabs in Cardiff but the site says theyre not training in the UK at the mo - so i am slightly confused about those that have said they DO train here?!
Thanks in advance.
Based in Wiltshire
Max
Maxf206
Hi peeps im just lookin into doin my teeth whitening training... can any1 recommend who the best company is please?
Has any1 heard of LoveLite? Any thoughts on them? They use bicaronate & bi-perborate products,
or has any1 heard of teeth-whitening-training.co.uk? (they come out to me to train me) & use non peroxide gels.
I looked at that teethlabs in Cardiff but the site says theyre not training in the UK at the mo - so i am slightly confused about those that have said they DO train here?!
Thanks in advance.
Max
Has any1 heard of LoveLite? Any thoughts on them? They use bicaronate & bi-perborate products,
or has any1 heard of teeth-whitening-training.co.uk? (they come out to me to train me) & use non peroxide gels.
I looked at that teethlabs in Cardiff but the site says theyre not training in the UK at the mo - so i am slightly confused about those that have said they DO train here?!
Thanks in advance.
Max
tamkeen
I m selling my teeth whitening machine I bought last year for 1500 any one interseted tell me I m selling only for 700 pound its professional teeth whitening machine it will comes up to 15 treatment its include shade guide ,Googles and peroxide gel and non peroxide gel as well any one interestef call me or text me I will call u back because I m working ful time
smile-elite
Fully mobile, they come to you! Very professional and they don't rip you off or give you dodgey forgein gels, etc. Don't know why they're called smile Scotland as they trained me and I'm in Surrey!
SmileLikeTheStars
There are alot of teeth whitening training businesses who have very little experience themselves and of limited technical ability eg unaware of the damage someone can cause by administering certain solutions to an open cavity, enamel water content and the effect this has on the eyes perceived whiteness of the teeth and that's before we even get onto the fools using Hydrogen Peroxide 36% (yes this includes both dentists and non-dentists!!).
A business that does understand and train its students important aspects as above and more is Smile Like The Stars Training School.
http://www.smilelikethestars.co.uk/teeth-whitening-training-courses/
A business that does understand and train its students important aspects as above and more is Smile Like The Stars Training School.
http://www.smilelikethestars.co.uk/teeth-whitening-training-courses/
SmileLikeTheStars
There are alot of teeth whitening training businesses who have very little experience themselves and of limited technical ability eg unaware of the damage someone can cause by administering certain solutions to an open cavity, enamel water content and the effect this has on the eyes perceived whiteness of the teeth and that's before we even get onto the fools using Hydrogen Peroxide 36% (yes this includes both dentists and non-dentists!!).
A business that does understand and train its students important aspects as above and more is Smile Like The Stars Training School.
A business that does understand and train its students important aspects as above and more is Smile Like The Stars Training School.
CaraMc
I have just completed my training with an established high end local company based in Norwich. In fact I have just placed a review on here as well. For all the knowledge, training and help given the course was a steal and I can learn from their mistakes when setting up so I can navigate successfully through and be making good money by doing a quality job. They only now train people and I can only say great things about them.
Rosierose
Hi Guys
I am lookiing at training in teeth whitening but I am moving to the Netherlands ...is the qualification recognised in Europe?
I am lookiing at training in teeth whitening but I am moving to the Netherlands ...is the qualification recognised in Europe?
Juststartingup
Why not help out and give your answer to the question?wot is the best whitening gel to use on my clients to get the best results as I ham just starting up many thanks
wanda111
If anyone is looking for natural gum treatment have a look at http://www.gumdisease-treatment.com/. its a pretty nifty site if all the info required on the topic.
Costagirl
Hello, my name is Kelly and I was scheduled to go on a fillers course with SPM, then they became Harley Street Training, who then became Dermal Fillers Academy and then they made me pay for the whole course upfront and then cancelled the day before. Now they have gone awol.Has anyone else had this experience? The characters who appeared were first a guy called ray Mercer from SPM, then a woman called Lorraine at Harley Street Training and then a guy called David who called to say their trainer had fallen down the stairs and the course wasn't going ahead. they appear to have run off with my money. Has anyone else had a simliar experience?
Please help!
Please help!
MaryMag123
I was very interested in this business and explored the non-peroxide market.
I would recommend that you do your homework. If you can, try and visit the trade shows to see demonstrations and results.
I found a few opportunities that allowed you to try before you buy. The results seemed pretty impressive; 2 had celebrity endorsements. One gave clients a money back guarantee of up to 2-8 shades. The cost of the franchise option is expensive, but you get a lot of marketing support. One allowed you to pay as you go, but the product was £50 per client and £150 per month for the light.
I decided not to proceed following some market research in my area. The teeth whitening markets seems pretty much saturated by salons and people on Facebook who are offering the service for £40-£50. This does not leave a great profit margin after marketing, products, taxes and travel if you are mobile. Most businesses's that entail visiting clients break even at around £40.00-£50. The franchises RRP was around £149.00, which does generate a healthy profit.
Good luck!
I would recommend that you do your homework. If you can, try and visit the trade shows to see demonstrations and results.
I found a few opportunities that allowed you to try before you buy. The results seemed pretty impressive; 2 had celebrity endorsements. One gave clients a money back guarantee of up to 2-8 shades. The cost of the franchise option is expensive, but you get a lot of marketing support. One allowed you to pay as you go, but the product was £50 per client and £150 per month for the light.
I decided not to proceed following some market research in my area. The teeth whitening markets seems pretty much saturated by salons and people on Facebook who are offering the service for £40-£50. This does not leave a great profit margin after marketing, products, taxes and travel if you are mobile. Most businesses's that entail visiting clients break even at around £40.00-£50. The franchises RRP was around £149.00, which does generate a healthy profit.
Good luck!
MaryMag123
I was very interested in this business and explored the non-peroxide market.
I would recommend that you do your homework. If you can, try and visit the trade shows to see demonstrations and results.
I found a few opportunities that allowed you to try before you buy. The results seemed pretty impressive; 2 had celebrity endorsements. One gave clients a money back guarantee of up to 2-8 shades. The cost of the franchise option is expensive, but you get a lot of marketing support. One allowed you to pay as you go, but the product was £50 per client and £150 per month for the light.
I decided not to proceed following some market research in my area. The teeth whitening markets seems pretty much saturated by salons and people on Facebook who are offering the service for £40-£50. This does not leave a great profit margin after marketing, products, taxes and travel if you are mobile. Most businesses's that entail visiting clients break even at around £40.00-£50. The franchises RRP was around £149.00, which does generate a healthy profit.
Good luck!
I would recommend that you do your homework. If you can, try and visit the trade shows to see demonstrations and results.
I found a few opportunities that allowed you to try before you buy. The results seemed pretty impressive; 2 had celebrity endorsements. One gave clients a money back guarantee of up to 2-8 shades. The cost of the franchise option is expensive, but you get a lot of marketing support. One allowed you to pay as you go, but the product was £50 per client and £150 per month for the light.
I decided not to proceed following some market research in my area. The teeth whitening markets seems pretty much saturated by salons and people on Facebook who are offering the service for £40-£50. This does not leave a great profit margin after marketing, products, taxes and travel if you are mobile. Most businesses's that entail visiting clients break even at around £40.00-£50. The franchises RRP was around £149.00, which does generate a healthy profit.
Good luck!
Maltabeach12
Hi I trained with Lovelite in Harley street last febrary. There were 2 other ladies on the course, they trained us to carry out peroxide treatments, and sold peroxide to us including all the stuff you need to carry out the treatment
I ramg to place an order, to which i was told that they no longer sell peroxide, only non-peroxide, that they didnt have in stock etc.
I have since wrote them an in depth letter expressing my feelings that they should have also trained us in both practises non peroxide and peroxide, and I felt that they should compensate lovelite technicians in some way
That was 2 weeks ago I have still not had a reply, I am currently seeking legal advice, so I would deffinantley avoid LOVELITE as you pay your momey to get a business up and runnimg, and convinced that the treatments that you are trained to carry out are legal when in fact there not disgusted at the lack of communication ive had from them
I ramg to place an order, to which i was told that they no longer sell peroxide, only non-peroxide, that they didnt have in stock etc.
I have since wrote them an in depth letter expressing my feelings that they should have also trained us in both practises non peroxide and peroxide, and I felt that they should compensate lovelite technicians in some way
That was 2 weeks ago I have still not had a reply, I am currently seeking legal advice, so I would deffinantley avoid LOVELITE as you pay your momey to get a business up and runnimg, and convinced that the treatments that you are trained to carry out are legal when in fact there not disgusted at the lack of communication ive had from them
Gemma80
Help!!who to train with does?? anyone no about the teeth whitening company Beaming whites???? are they any good?
truthtruthnothingbuttruth
WARNING TO PUBLIC: ALL TRAINING COURSES ARE SCAMS SIMPLY TO GET YOUR ATTENDANCE FEE for a worthless bit of paper they call a certificate. Fed lies on the course and ripped -off by selling you useless ineffective materials. Attendees then trot off to scam the public with the same lies. All these training schools are SCAMSTERS TRAINING OTHERS TO BECOME SCAMSTERS. Morally bankrupt criminals - either ripping of the public for ineffective treatment or endangering them or both. All what you read below written by scamsters, all lies, pretend to be others. One interest- money. Disgusting low life. Fake courses, fake certificates, fake materials, fake names, fake facts. Truth can be found out by simple research.No vested interest from me, work as researcher for an independent TV production company, have been working on programme aired soon featuring undercover footage of the likes of below. Thought the public should know ASAP, as its in the final edit before airing soon. BEWARE OF THE SCAMSTERS WRITING HERE
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den201
SOME of what has been communicated above is true about TEETH WHITENING TRAINING COURSES.
FACT: If teeth whitening training providers are training people to deliver peroxide, then they are condoning an illegal practice. However, dentists/other providers also train dentists in power tooth whitening which is also illegal if the dentist delivers the treatment. Some dentists have not received any tooth whitening training. I presume unbiased and impartial TV companies would include this information in any documentary. The BBC made a BIG mistake recently when they release inaccurate information.
FACT: Some celebrity dentists advise on their website's that they can deliver power tooth whitening because it is the practicing of dentistry. WRONG, dentists must comply with the same cosmetic regulations as everyone else.
FACT: There are many complaints on the Internet about patient harm caused by dentists delivering power tooth whitening due to very high peroxide levels between 25-35%. (more risks are involved). Non-dentists should never consider this treatment; it can go horribly wrong even if you have done everything right. It illegal for dentists to use products containing or releasing more than 6% Peroxide.
FACT: Some of the 0.1% peroxide teeth whitening treatments are not as effective as others.
FACT: Many people use on-line identities, including this guy. It is what the person writes, which is more important. Is it based on fact or true belief and free from defamation as well as harassment?
FACT: EU Law and the current Dentistry Act do not prohibit non dentists delivering teeth whitening providing the products do non exceed 0.1% peroxide and teeth whitening operatives do not give clinical dental advice about teeth whitening or purport to be a dentist. This is the abridged version.
FACT: There are at least 5 bona fide training companies who operate legally. Not all businesses ARE the same. You can trace these companies quite easily.
FACT: Libelous and slanderous remarks are unlawful. The media has a duty to make sure information is presented in a fair, balanced and truthful manner. A professional researcher will present only the facts, leaving out his/her own opinions. Some of the facts have been deliberately omitted and misrepresented here.
FACT: There is no evidence of the GDC pursing its own members for the delivery of tooth whitening exceeding 6% peroxide. This begs the question why do they harass non-members?
Do the BBC/ ITV really commission TV production companies who employ researchers who behave in this manner and who also appear to be poorly informed?
FACT: If teeth whitening training providers are training people to deliver peroxide, then they are condoning an illegal practice. However, dentists/other providers also train dentists in power tooth whitening which is also illegal if the dentist delivers the treatment. Some dentists have not received any tooth whitening training. I presume unbiased and impartial TV companies would include this information in any documentary. The BBC made a BIG mistake recently when they release inaccurate information.
FACT: Some celebrity dentists advise on their website's that they can deliver power tooth whitening because it is the practicing of dentistry. WRONG, dentists must comply with the same cosmetic regulations as everyone else.
FACT: There are many complaints on the Internet about patient harm caused by dentists delivering power tooth whitening due to very high peroxide levels between 25-35%. (more risks are involved). Non-dentists should never consider this treatment; it can go horribly wrong even if you have done everything right. It illegal for dentists to use products containing or releasing more than 6% Peroxide.
FACT: Some of the 0.1% peroxide teeth whitening treatments are not as effective as others.
FACT: Many people use on-line identities, including this guy. It is what the person writes, which is more important. Is it based on fact or true belief and free from defamation as well as harassment?
FACT: EU Law and the current Dentistry Act do not prohibit non dentists delivering teeth whitening providing the products do non exceed 0.1% peroxide and teeth whitening operatives do not give clinical dental advice about teeth whitening or purport to be a dentist. This is the abridged version.
FACT: There are at least 5 bona fide training companies who operate legally. Not all businesses ARE the same. You can trace these companies quite easily.
FACT: Libelous and slanderous remarks are unlawful. The media has a duty to make sure information is presented in a fair, balanced and truthful manner. A professional researcher will present only the facts, leaving out his/her own opinions. Some of the facts have been deliberately omitted and misrepresented here.
FACT: There is no evidence of the GDC pursing its own members for the delivery of tooth whitening exceeding 6% peroxide. This begs the question why do they harass non-members?
Do the BBC/ ITV really commission TV production companies who employ researchers who behave in this manner and who also appear to be poorly informed?
tippy
Can anyone tell me if there are any clinics in Edinburgh using lovelite.
Missvb
Can I legally undertake dermal fillers without being a nurse doctor or dentist
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lolacat
no you cant
laranotcroft
Hi
I've just done my teeth whitening training with Beaming White - they were fantastic and very cheap. They even helped me with insurance.
I've just done my teeth whitening training with Beaming White - they were fantastic and very cheap. They even helped me with insurance.
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futabadirk
how much was it?
Spartacus
Do you need to be registered with the general dental council to do teeth whitening
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lolacat
no you dont
kathi
Anyone know anything about RITE SMILE training?
mdouthwaite
be very careful as i used pearlywhites mobile but was not happy with the training or the products , the owner did come out in person to see me but she tried to convince me my wifes teeth had improved by 22 shades when there was no difference and training manual could have been written better by a 5 year old!!
luckily i got a refund!
luckily i got a refund!
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Jaded
Hi mdouthwaite I agree with you . Really bad training and P3 never worked either on my daughter no change what so ever !!!! is this the case with all non -peroxide gels or just that one ?
mdouthwaite
hi jaded i cannot answer regarding all non peroxide gels but also tried one from super white smile shop and that was equally as bad and only people on forum saying non peroxide works seems to be training schools or people that are not prepared to back this up, i got a refund jaded and if you contact mdouthwaite@btconnect.com i will give you the trading standards contact as they are gathering info for an investigation
Martin
Martin
mdouthwaite
BE CAREFUL AS SOME NON PEROXIDE TRAINING IS A WASTE OF MONEY , TIME AND EFFORT !!!!
mdouthwaite
be very careful as i used pearlywhites mobile but was not happy with the training or the products , the owner did come out in person to see me but she tried to convince me my wifes teeth had improved by 22 shades when there was no difference and training manual could have been written better by a 5 year old!!
luckily i got a refund!
luckily i got a refund!
AmyBrown
If you are wanting to do Teeth Whitening. Naturawhite is the best one to go for.
Naturawhite are the best by far! Only takes one day to become a Dental Bleaching Technician! Check it out - would definetely reccomend.
Naturawhite are the best by far! Only takes one day to become a Dental Bleaching Technician! Check it out - would definetely reccomend.
AmyBrown
Naturawhite are doing great Training Courses right now. Only takes one day to be qualified to become a Dental Bleaching Technician!
Check it out, would definetely reccoment!
http://www.naturawhite.com/
Check it out, would definetely reccoment!
http://www.naturawhite.com/
JohnDavidson
I was very pleased with Naturawhite who I think have a lot of Teeth Whiteining Training centres. I learnt a lot and the result have been very positive. I would recommend them.
lucyboo22
Hi, I did my training with the smile centre, they came to my salon and everything was done there in about 4 hours. The course was very thorough and the price was very good compared to other courses iv'e looked at. I know that they offer full packages but i only did the training as my boyfriend had bought most of the equipment so i can't comment on what the packages are like but the training is brill.
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denni12
are these legal need toknow asap as someone is coming tuesday can u email me denniswright47@hotmail.co.uk thank u
Xephy
Hi there! I have seen this.company before but not sure if they get teeth really white as I went to the last beauty show to source a good machine and try it out first hand and it was absolute rubbish and hurt my gums for at least 2 weeks. Now I'm worried that my clients could potentially experience all the bad things from teeth whitening and diminish my reputation.
WhiteningS
I attended the course for advanced whitening systems last month. It was simple as it was non peroxide. I think the gels are ok. The equipment took weeks to come about 3 weeks. I email them and it takes them days or sometimes they never reply. I still have NOT recieved my certificate and awaiting a response. I did the training in the premier inn in London. Not actually at the Harley street base, so if anyone is going to do this then make sure you can get to the Harley street one. The cost was £599. The equipment is ok but I am now going to do a peroxide course. So around £1000 would of been spent.
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dorrill76
peroxide is now illegal to use outside of a dentist practice beware i have heard its a 6k fine if caught using. i could be wrong but please check
dorrill76
peroxide is now illegal to use outside of a dentist practice beware i have heard its a 6k fine if caught using. i could be wrong but please check
lolar
Advanced Whitening Systems are totally unprofessional , they never answer the phone and does there training centre in Harley Street really exist ??? and they over book ..don't waste your time with them !!!!
lolacat
peroxide over 0.1% is also illegal for dentists to use, regulations for teeth whitening apply the same to dentists as beauty therapists they are no different !!!
lolacat
peroxide over 0.1% is also illegal for dentists to use, regulations for teeth whitening are the same to dentists as beauty therapists they are no different !!!
lolacat
peroxide over 0.1% is also illegal for dentists to use, regulations for teeth whitening are the same to dentists as beauty therapists they are no different !!!
lolacat
peroxide over 0.1% is also illegal for dentists to use, regulations for teeth whitening are the same to dentists as beauty therapists they are no different !!!
Roxylocks
Hi has anyone heard of the minx academy that come to your house to do the course?
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scorpian
Hi all just be careful and check with GDC guidelines....I rang to see who is allowed to carry out teeth whitening...I am a Dental Nurse of 20 odd years...did the whitening training...then i got a visit from trading standards saying it was illegal...rang GDC and they said the same...I said I was using non-peroxide products...they said it didnt matter and have taken on a team to tackle this...they've started prosecuting people!!
den201
Hi, if you still registered with the GDC you cannot deliver teeth whitening without the prescription of a dentist. If you have left the profession it is perfectly legal providing you use legal products and do not give advice or act like a dental professional (this may be hard for you if you),
The prosecution cases had nothing to do with illegal teeth whitening.
Talk to you MP and get legal advice, we did this for free.
The prosecution cases had nothing to do with illegal teeth whitening.
Talk to you MP and get legal advice, we did this for free.
bainst1
Teeth Whitening training, full setup £800, they were brilliant http://www.ritesmile.co.uk
Maria1963
Im really interested in doing a laser teeth whitening course. I live in Newcastle upon tyne but there dons't seem to be a course near. where is the nearest a
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mdouthwaite
i used pearlywhites but training manual terrible and products and results worse , had to get a refund
Minxacademy
Hi, here at Minx Academy we offer teeth whitening courses. We were one of the first course providers who offered courses mobile so our customers didn't need to trabrl, and we still offer this service. Hence why we are one of the best mobile course providers in the UK.
Not only are we professional but we have one of the best aftercare services.
We believe in offering value for money and quality. Our teeth whitening courses are currently the cheapest on the net but that's not compromising the quality and assurance that our customers aren't getting the very best. We have consultants who are fully trained and qualified who know what they are specializing in.
Not only are we professional but we have one of the best aftercare services.
We believe in offering value for money and quality. Our teeth whitening courses are currently the cheapest on the net but that's not compromising the quality and assurance that our customers aren't getting the very best. We have consultants who are fully trained and qualified who know what they are specializing in.
TeethWhiteningTraining
Did you ever do your training ?
Adriel123
I know the one teeth whitening center where you can get every type knowledge of teeth whitening visit at http://www.impressivesmile.com
jjtwinkle
This site is great,thanks to all of you for your advice on courses and the legality of this subject.
jjtwinkle
This site is great,thanks to all of you for your advice on courses and the legality of this subject.
jjtwinkle
my firend did a course with Miami white in Camden, was wondering if there any other course that are good in London for teeth whitening
Bellabonita
I have just completed a teeth whitening training course with pearly whites. They trained me at my home and i Was very pleased with the training and kit I purchased. Claire is fantastic, she is there for u day and night with questions u may have. I would defiantly recommend pearly whites to anyone.
chelsie2012
where is the best place in kent and london to do a teething whitening course
Cribby86
I trained with lovelite it was brill , Debra & Donna are fab I was lucky enough to have one too one training with Donna learned loads! . The equipment is great , communication , re-ordering is also great. Would highly recommend lovelite !! X
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sammie2
Hi i am about to book a course with Lovelite. Really excited about it all! How are you getting on with it all now? I have been trying to find out some more info on the whitening products as there are so many websites saying that some are illegal. Can you reassure me that theirs is totally legal? It's alot of money to part with. Just want to make sure.Thanks x
sammie2
Hi i am about to book a course with Lovelite. Really excited about it all! How are you getting on with it all now? I have been trying to find out some more info on the whitening products as there are so many websites saying that some are illegal. Can you reassure me that theirs is totally legal? It's alot of money to part with. Just want to make sure.Thanks x
sarah-smiles
I had my training with LoveLite White. The training was brilliant, and I loved every minute of it. Donna was very professional and answered all my questions and put my worries to rest. She was amazing. The training is done in their Harley Street Clinic in London. I was all the way down in Devon at the time, so Donna came to me instead and I had great 1 to 1 training. The products are great and the business start up package I got was great value. I totally recommend LoveLite White training.
therealfacts
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cleansmile
Myself and my friend have just completed our training with pearlywhitesmobile and they were great. They came to us and trained in our salon, at no extra cost. There were very professional and went through everything with us. They also hold workshops and have contacted them a few times since our training to ask questions and have found their aftercare second to none. I would def recommed them to anyone looking to do teeth whitening training, we couldnt fault them in anyway. Very professional, honest and reliable..... now we cant wait to get started. pearlywhitesmobile is the way to go
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mdouthwaite
wish my experience with them was as good and hadnt led to me getting a refund
Carreral4
Ok My turn. Now get ready for this. Answer to teeth whitening training. I chose Teeth Labs no regreats, Now ontoGary Knight/ FUSS BEAUTY SCHOOL AKA IACTW (in kahoots with nick Kulbach BEAUTY COSTMETIC TRAINING....SCAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lets let rip.
WARNING GO WITH THESE GUYS AT YOUR OWN RISK
Heres my story and 14 others who have all been ripped off to the tune of £1,600.00 EACH! others £1,900.00
Beauty Cosmetic Training (Nick Kaulbach) Fuss Beauty School (Gary
Knight) http://www.iactw.org SCAM
Be very aware of all names in headline. All in kahoots with one
another. Botox training scam, teeth whitening training scams. Think
youl get what you paid for? Think again. Fuss Beauty school and its
director Gary night have now changed names both in person and in
company after numerous complaints were made to the trading standards
about their practice in cosmetic teeth whitening training. Yes Gary is
under a new name where as fuss is now iactw. (ORG!!!!!!?) Yup clever
but still quite transparent. Garys wife has been deported for fraud
and now runs B-ZERO teeth whitening courses abroad!!!!! The recent of
scams was the BOTOX training for NON Medical personel. Fuss/Gary
brought on former telecoms scamster Nicholas kaulbach to run this nice
little earner. A company was set up by Nick called Beauty Cosmetic Training LTD
and the courses were about to comence. Held at a plush hotel in Oxford
students were to get full medical training and administeration of botox
traning along with 1st aid etc. Also certificates of achievement of
minimum standards, acess to prescrition Doctors the ability to purchase
the botox drug once signed off by the doctors.
Well stop the press, after the course finished we were lucky to hear from Nick again, NO certificates , No insurance! No prescribing Doctors! and guess what NO MONEY BACK. Nick i heard was looking to set up his own insurance company so we could trade L O L , bulk buy a ton of BOTOX from abroad and issue to us but with no doctor willing to prescribe that extra money making stunt couldnt be pulled off. Anyway so theres qite a few of us ot of pocket, fuss have sold p (bollocks gary changed his name and changed FUSS to IACTW whilst Nick has closed down the beauty cosmetic training website/company)
Now for the best part. Saw thsi comming a mile off, IACTW were doing B-ZERO teeth whitening system supposedly via another company but also really owned by GARY KNIGHT! are now offering to NON medical personel DERMAL FILLERS YIPEE lets all go get ripped off further by the joint rough traders Nick Kaulbach and gary.
Ok so i politely asked for my £1600 back and got no response - HOW RUDE :) so Plan b protect the nieve and cost him alot more than £1600. So guys save your money dont be ripped off!
One of the other girls when she asked for a refund was told that he would offer her and us all (i had no offer!) a dermal roller course) she took him up on the offer but heard nothing back. BTW The origional Dermal roller is for medic use only! AnyhooOOO next time she asked he said back on a txt NO you were all offered a dermal roller course instead so youve had your chance!
Well he must be making some money his house is up for sale in bristol for a mere £495.000
http://www.view-me.com/56-Nick_Kaulbach.htm
Much Love Lisa Carrera. Ripped of customer
Off to post else where :)
In the meantime ill let the others know about this post they may have some to add
xx
WARNING GO WITH THESE GUYS AT YOUR OWN RISK
Heres my story and 14 others who have all been ripped off to the tune of £1,600.00 EACH! others £1,900.00
Beauty Cosmetic Training (Nick Kaulbach) Fuss Beauty School (Gary
Knight) http://www.iactw.org SCAM
Be very aware of all names in headline. All in kahoots with one
another. Botox training scam, teeth whitening training scams. Think
youl get what you paid for? Think again. Fuss Beauty school and its
director Gary night have now changed names both in person and in
company after numerous complaints were made to the trading standards
about their practice in cosmetic teeth whitening training. Yes Gary is
under a new name where as fuss is now iactw. (ORG!!!!!!?) Yup clever
but still quite transparent. Garys wife has been deported for fraud
and now runs B-ZERO teeth whitening courses abroad!!!!! The recent of
scams was the BOTOX training for NON Medical personel. Fuss/Gary
brought on former telecoms scamster Nicholas kaulbach to run this nice
little earner. A company was set up by Nick called Beauty Cosmetic Training LTD
and the courses were about to comence. Held at a plush hotel in Oxford
students were to get full medical training and administeration of botox
traning along with 1st aid etc. Also certificates of achievement of
minimum standards, acess to prescrition Doctors the ability to purchase
the botox drug once signed off by the doctors.
Well stop the press, after the course finished we were lucky to hear from Nick again, NO certificates , No insurance! No prescribing Doctors! and guess what NO MONEY BACK. Nick i heard was looking to set up his own insurance company so we could trade L O L , bulk buy a ton of BOTOX from abroad and issue to us but with no doctor willing to prescribe that extra money making stunt couldnt be pulled off. Anyway so theres qite a few of us ot of pocket, fuss have sold p (bollocks gary changed his name and changed FUSS to IACTW whilst Nick has closed down the beauty cosmetic training website/company)
Now for the best part. Saw thsi comming a mile off, IACTW were doing B-ZERO teeth whitening system supposedly via another company but also really owned by GARY KNIGHT! are now offering to NON medical personel DERMAL FILLERS YIPEE lets all go get ripped off further by the joint rough traders Nick Kaulbach and gary.
Ok so i politely asked for my £1600 back and got no response - HOW RUDE :) so Plan b protect the nieve and cost him alot more than £1600. So guys save your money dont be ripped off!
One of the other girls when she asked for a refund was told that he would offer her and us all (i had no offer!) a dermal roller course) she took him up on the offer but heard nothing back. BTW The origional Dermal roller is for medic use only! AnyhooOOO next time she asked he said back on a txt NO you were all offered a dermal roller course instead so youve had your chance!
Well he must be making some money his house is up for sale in bristol for a mere £495.000
http://www.view-me.com/56-Nick_Kaulbach.htm
Much Love Lisa Carrera. Ripped of customer
Off to post else where :)
In the meantime ill let the others know about this post they may have some to add
xx
Comments
bennyboyca
I have just been scammed by them, please can you give me your email address so I can tell you what they've done to me, could do with advice from someone that has delt with them...
Thanks
Thanks
weeeedy2003
Me too i have been chasing them for a refund which i was promised months ago and now they have told me there will be no refund and to sell my stuff on ebay UNBELIEVABLE
FelicityRichards
You should all contact trading standards and give them details of exactly what happened. Remember, if you do it as a group you will have a higher chance of being heard and having some action taken. Try citizens advice bureau as well. If that doesn't help then turn up at their door and demand your money back, or contact your credit card company.
If all else fails this is the address that one of their websites is registered to:
6 the elms
Bath
Tyne Wear
BA1 7BP
United Kingdom
If all else fails this is the address that one of their websites is registered to:
6 the elms
Bath
Tyne Wear
BA1 7BP
United Kingdom
Melany6
Hi
Just spotted an error with this address and I live in tyne and wear and there are no post codes up here starting with BA1 and also Bath is def NOT IN TYNE AND WEAR!
Thanks for the warning about these companies, I will pass on these details to friends.
Just spotted an error with this address and I live in tyne and wear and there are no post codes up here starting with BA1 and also Bath is def NOT IN TYNE AND WEAR!
Thanks for the warning about these companies, I will pass on these details to friends.
lyndsylou
Hi I trained with Fuss Beauty/IACTW last year and was really lucky after weeks of arguing to get my equipment off them. I took out there insurance which does not seem to be worth the papaer it is written on - a compnay in Pakistan with a 1 page website giving no details of cover? Can anyone tell me where I can get insurance cover from?
truesmile
Hi all, just had my training with pearlywhites and found them great. I would definately recommend them to anyone who is looking for training. They came to me and covered all aspects of the teeth whitening, i also got hands on and whitened my models teeth and they did mine. They are using two different non peroxide products and both work really well. averaging 14-16 shades each time. I love doing this now even though i have only been doing it for a few weeks, am so excited. I would definately recommed pearlywhites to anyone who is looking. Thanks girls for all of you help and support x
Claire-louise
Hi there, i have just paid £1300 for teeth whitening course with Nick @ Beauty training solutions, and was promised the derma roller course for another £500. I have completed the training day. But two weeks on i have heard nothing. Ive tried contacting the academy, no answer. No answer from his mobile. No answer via email. I really dont know what to do. I havent received a kit, insurance, certificate. I read your comments, the best thing to do you say it to contact Trading standards? Do you think that something will be don about this? Has anybody actually had a refund as yet? Or has anyone actually received any products? I am absolutely appauled. :-( x
farquaar
Hi following up here, for fans of Gary knight/Burgess/Gold or whatever he's calling himself now. Address above is correct but without the Tyne Wear bit. He's been conning people for quite some time, http://www.scotsman.com/news/ghost-hunters-left-in-the-dark-by-tv-show-that-never-happened-1-963052 http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=470073&hw=++candy++run we tried to get the authorities/police involved some years back for fraud but he's clearly still at it. Best bet is to pay him a visit at the Bath address mob handed. He or his partner Caroline Conway are involved in semi permament makeup as well which was based in Bristol http://www.spmacademy.co.uk/
farquaar
heres some of the companies Gary knight has set up (registered by his partner Caroline Conway) http://company-director-check.co.uk/director/912309266
scorpian
Hi I did my training with the named above....and never heard from them again!!!! Is the certificate worth the paper its written on????
scorpian
Hi I did my training with the named above....and never heard from them again!!!! Is the certificate worth the paper its written on????
dorrill76
i have just done a course with pearly whites and they have been fantastic Julie was our trainer she hand delievered our equipment paid through paypal and great results sounds like you all have had a rough time. recommended sinclair insurance under beauty about 80 quid for a year
dorrill76
i have just done a course with pearly whites and they have been fantastic Julie was our trainer she hand delievered our equipment paid through paypal and great results sounds like you all have had a rough time. recommended sinclair insurance under beauty about 80 quid for a year
mdouthwaite
did you use the p3 to get great results?
mdouthwaite
because in 17 attempts i have never seen great results and used the same company and just been refunded
seekingjustice
Hi
I would be very interested in hearing from anyone who feels they have a complaint against Mr Gary Knight (also known as Gary Burgess). There are several teeth whitening companies being operated in the UK that we think he is connected to and would like to hear form anyone that has personally dealt with him at any company in relation to teeth whitening, semi-permanent make-up, Botox or any other treatments.
If you have been pursuing him for a refund, I can also provide details of his current whereabouts and may be able to help provide information that can be used in his pursuit. Please contact me on seekingjustice101@rocketmail.com
I would be very interested in hearing from anyone who feels they have a complaint against Mr Gary Knight (also known as Gary Burgess). There are several teeth whitening companies being operated in the UK that we think he is connected to and would like to hear form anyone that has personally dealt with him at any company in relation to teeth whitening, semi-permanent make-up, Botox or any other treatments.
If you have been pursuing him for a refund, I can also provide details of his current whereabouts and may be able to help provide information that can be used in his pursuit. Please contact me on seekingjustice101@rocketmail.com
katemac1
please help, gary knight and his son also own SPM academy, i booked a dermal filler course along with other courses up with them only to get home and cant get insured unless im a doctor , £2000 down the drain, this happened only a couple of months ago, i have disputed it with my debit card company, i feel so stupid, how can they keep getting away with this, now SPM have shut down, not paid the rent in there rented buildings, ive reported it to police, trading standards etc but not alot they can do, so many other people hae had the same problem i went on the courses with, johnathan knight (garys son also) forged my certifiate the bastards!!!!! please can someone help x
WDRes
I have been warning people for so long, not just him but every teeth whitening training course in the land or dermal fillers or anything restricted. YOU HAVE BEEN DEFRAUDED- INSIST, ABSOLUTELY INSIST to the police they refer it to the serious fraud squad. It is going on day in, day out, I'm talking serious organised crime behind teeth whitening training courses and other medically restricted procedures, I feel so sorry for you and many,many others. The regulators are simply unable to cope with the scale of the problem. IT IS AN ABSOLUTE SCANDAL. Also shout from the loudest rooftops on internet forums, press, get onto radio etc what happened to you.Write to everyone under the sun, Create a complete stink as there are many other fraudsters too.eg every single teeth whitening training course is a scam as none has the power to certify people and issue legitimate certificates, MAJOR ORGANISED CRIME AT WORK HERE.I will help and support you in anyway I can. They prey on attendees at courses and harm the public health in the process,Despicable. The sad truth is all these teeth whitening training courses, dermal filler courses etc are simply scam schools to try to recruit you to then scam others as they feed you lies on the facts eg legality, insurance etc.Write to watchdog, papers etc but most inportantly insist, absolutely insist to the police that is is refered to the the serious fraud squad and their department for organised crime (used to be SOCA). BE PERSISTENT- YOU HAVE BEEN DEFRAUDED BY ORGANISED CRIME THAT HAS INFILTRATED MEDICAL AESTHETIC TRAINING PARTICULARLY TEETH WHITENING COURSES but others such as dermal etc, Sorry this has happened to you- its a scandal.
katemac1
WDres, Thanks for your comment, rung the police for the second time amongst around 5 others i no and they are now investigating SPM for fraud,im doing everything i can for justice to be done, no doubt they will get away with it, again by what i have read, or the law will give them 100 hours unpaid community service and a suspended sentence, because that's justice, NOT!! they are now opening business in Dubai, France Switzerland etc..... anyone that has been conned by SPM, FUSS etc... ring the police, and demand they look into it, please dont let them conn more of us, i feel like a complete naive idiot!!!!
seekingjustice
Hi to Katemac1, WDres and anyone else who's been conned by Gary and Jonathan Knight. Gary Knight (real name Gary John Burgess) started an 8 month sentence this week for assaulting a bailiff we sent to his home in Trowbridge. This was also in today's Mirror newspaper (and online). We know more than most about Gary, it was our legal claim that ending up putting him in prison. Gary has been hiding out in Switzerland but for now he's being detained at Her Majesties pleasure. This is an opportunity to get restitution as he can't run (for the moment). I am happy to share information and have addresses etc for him (I even have the registration details of his Ferrari). please email me on jonathan@lightworx.co.uk
James16
I trained at allwhite lase company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training .
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
James16
I trained at allwhite lase company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training .
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
James16
I trained at allwhite lase company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training .
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
LyndsayH
Hey all, i have just finished my training with LOVELITE WHITE. They use a brand new magenta system. My friend and I went to Harley street to have our training and we had such an amazing day. I so cant wait to get started. The training took the whole day, they provided models for us and we had our own teeth whitened too!! Everyone was so pleased. I contacted only two other companies before going to lovelite, but they seemed too rushed to speak, but lovelite is also owned by debra robson lawrence the queen of semi permanent make up and my sister has also trained in this and assured me how amazing she is! She was right and I would recommend anyone who is scared or needs advice about teeth whitening to contact them, Donna and Debra helped me even when I had a million questions to ask!!
Comments
CharleneR
Oh i trained with Lovelite as well! I found them really informative from the minute i made contact! There was two of us on the training, their place Is gorgeous and it really helps to have a Harley St diploma! Couldnt fault the training start to finish, the support after is great as well and that new Magenta System is the best and they are really lovely people. Def recommend! Charleen R
Lindsey123
Hiya could you please tell me how you are getting on after completing the LOVELITE training? do you like the products you use, are they safe have you had any bad experiences, etc etc. Ive been reading the messages on this forum and it has scared me off a bit, expecially after reading some of the dentists comments!! Are you happy with the results you are getting on your customers? Any advice comments you have would very much be appreciated. Thanks x
water
i would like to know how u r getting on after your training with lovelite thanks x
water
i would like to know how u r getting on after your training with lovelite thanks x
Jenna25
I did my training on harley street with adavnced whitening systems ( website advancedwhitenings.com) , really professional guys, really good non peroxide products. I was really worried about the legal aspect but they put my mind at ease, real value for money. Would deffo reccommed them xx
James16
I trained at allwhite lase company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training .
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
James16
I trained at allwhite lase company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training .
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
James16
I trained at allwhite lase company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training .
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
James16
I trained at allwhite lase company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training .
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
James16
I trained at allwhite lase company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training .
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
James16
I trained at allwhite lase company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training .
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
James16
I trained at allwhite lase company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training .
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
James16
I trained at allwhite lase company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training .
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
James16
I trained at allwhite lase company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training .
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
James16
I trained at allwhite lase company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training .
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
James16
I trained at allwhite lase company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training .
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
James16
I trained at allwhite lase company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training .
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
Marky
Have a look at pearlywhitesmobile.co.uk. I did my training there and I cannot believe how good this company is. They came to me. Trained me and give me all the help I need. I rang the owner Claire at 9pm and she gave me advise!
Comments
mdouthwaite
they must have gone downhill since as i was not happy with training or products and got a refund
Gemma80
Which company was this, I am researching at the moment really want to have good training
Tracy59
Tooth whitening - see your dentist first
We are here to make sure you get the best standards of care and that the public can be confident that the profession is being properly regulated.
Who can carry out tooth whitening?
We believe that tooth whitening is the practice of dentistry, which is limited to GDC registrants. We have started a test case to prove this in law.
If you’re thinking about getting tooth whitening, speak to your dentist. A dentist will be able to advise you whether or not you are suitable for tooth whitening treatment. Dentists, hygienists and therapists will be able to discuss the options available to patients along with a written estimation of treatment costs.
You can search our registers to find a GDC registered dentist. You may wish to ask them questions about the training they have undertaken or ask for references from other patients before choosing whether to undergo treatment.
Complaints about tooth whitening
We investigate allegations of patient harm as a result of tooth whitening and, where we have enough evidence, we will proceed with prosecution. We will also take action against any of our registrants who are carrying out this procedure outside our Scope of Practice guidance, which explains which members of the dental team should do this treatment.
If we receive information, we can instruct our solicitors to investigate and gather evidence. This evidence goes through a two stage test in accordance with the code for Crown Prosecutors.
•Is there sufficient evidence for there to be a realistic prospect of conviction?
•If there is, is it in the public interest to pursue the matter to a prosecution?
Where these two tests are passed, our solicitors can take the case to a Magistrates’ Court. A fine can be imposed if the prosecution is successful.
This information is taken from the latest issue from the GDC (General Dental Council)
http://www.gdc-uk.org/Membersofpublic/Illegalpractice/Pages/Tooth-whitening.aspx
We are here to make sure you get the best standards of care and that the public can be confident that the profession is being properly regulated.
Who can carry out tooth whitening?
We believe that tooth whitening is the practice of dentistry, which is limited to GDC registrants. We have started a test case to prove this in law.
If you’re thinking about getting tooth whitening, speak to your dentist. A dentist will be able to advise you whether or not you are suitable for tooth whitening treatment. Dentists, hygienists and therapists will be able to discuss the options available to patients along with a written estimation of treatment costs.
You can search our registers to find a GDC registered dentist. You may wish to ask them questions about the training they have undertaken or ask for references from other patients before choosing whether to undergo treatment.
Complaints about tooth whitening
We investigate allegations of patient harm as a result of tooth whitening and, where we have enough evidence, we will proceed with prosecution. We will also take action against any of our registrants who are carrying out this procedure outside our Scope of Practice guidance, which explains which members of the dental team should do this treatment.
If we receive information, we can instruct our solicitors to investigate and gather evidence. This evidence goes through a two stage test in accordance with the code for Crown Prosecutors.
•Is there sufficient evidence for there to be a realistic prospect of conviction?
•If there is, is it in the public interest to pursue the matter to a prosecution?
Where these two tests are passed, our solicitors can take the case to a Magistrates’ Court. A fine can be imposed if the prosecution is successful.
This information is taken from the latest issue from the GDC (General Dental Council)
http://www.gdc-uk.org/Membersofpublic/Illegalpractice/Pages/Tooth-whitening.aspx
Comments
Jac100
Hi Tracy, what happened with this test case?
It seems difficult to believe that after 7 or more years and hundreds of thousands of non-dentist treatments later that no-one knows the answer to this question.
GDC Dentists are delivering training to non-dentists too!
No one is allowed to harm the public; dentists as well as non-dentists using illegal levels of bleach can be prosecuted. Hence the recent prosecution brought against a dental group in Yorkshire in August 2012, which resulted in £10k in fines and destruction of stock low level HP stock, due to a complaint by the public. Dentists across the country continue to use HP between 25-35% and advertise the use of Zoom (25%HP), this is a blatant breach of the law; therefore instead of pointing the finger at non-dentist the GDC needs to focus on their own double standards.
We never hear about doctors making claims about body piercing, tattooing Botox etc. being medical procedures that can only be undertaken by qualified doctors. All these procedures carry risk of infection or disfigurement. People have also died due to an allergic reaction to hair dye (containing peroxide), but it is still sold in supermarkets and used by hairdressers. This suggests that money not safety might be the motivation behind the allegation that bleaching teeth is dentistry. All cosmetic treatments carry some risk and consent is required; even hair dying can lead to severe burning of the scalp.
Most people these days visit their dentists 2- 4 times a year and pay for treatment and advice. The dentist has a duty of care to advise their patients if they have poor enamel, gum disease, sensitivity issues etc. I have enamel erosion, but my dentist has never told me this or given me advice on how to prevent further erosion, I have treated myself!
Many of my clients have been severely burned by their dentists and one experienced sensitivity for a year after her fourth bleaching treatment! More than one has simply dripped the bleach onto the patients’ lips and gums during the application procedure. I have carried out over 1500 treatments without any issues, other than occasional sensitivity!
I would welcome a universal standard and certification as well as insurance for both dentists and non-dentists and then the public can make an informed choice.
It seems difficult to believe that after 7 or more years and hundreds of thousands of non-dentist treatments later that no-one knows the answer to this question.
GDC Dentists are delivering training to non-dentists too!
No one is allowed to harm the public; dentists as well as non-dentists using illegal levels of bleach can be prosecuted. Hence the recent prosecution brought against a dental group in Yorkshire in August 2012, which resulted in £10k in fines and destruction of stock low level HP stock, due to a complaint by the public. Dentists across the country continue to use HP between 25-35% and advertise the use of Zoom (25%HP), this is a blatant breach of the law; therefore instead of pointing the finger at non-dentist the GDC needs to focus on their own double standards.
We never hear about doctors making claims about body piercing, tattooing Botox etc. being medical procedures that can only be undertaken by qualified doctors. All these procedures carry risk of infection or disfigurement. People have also died due to an allergic reaction to hair dye (containing peroxide), but it is still sold in supermarkets and used by hairdressers. This suggests that money not safety might be the motivation behind the allegation that bleaching teeth is dentistry. All cosmetic treatments carry some risk and consent is required; even hair dying can lead to severe burning of the scalp.
Most people these days visit their dentists 2- 4 times a year and pay for treatment and advice. The dentist has a duty of care to advise their patients if they have poor enamel, gum disease, sensitivity issues etc. I have enamel erosion, but my dentist has never told me this or given me advice on how to prevent further erosion, I have treated myself!
Many of my clients have been severely burned by their dentists and one experienced sensitivity for a year after her fourth bleaching treatment! More than one has simply dripped the bleach onto the patients’ lips and gums during the application procedure. I have carried out over 1500 treatments without any issues, other than occasional sensitivity!
I would welcome a universal standard and certification as well as insurance for both dentists and non-dentists and then the public can make an informed choice.
den201
Taken from Just answers:
There has been a recent case where a teeth whitening company was fined £6k with similar costs for not being a qualified dentist. This case was brought about by the GDC. In 2001, the House of Lords passed a Law whereby, as you state, it is a cosmetic procedure. What I do not want to do is to be prosecuted for undertaking this. Would my insurance still be valid? I would appreciate your answer as I have spent considerable money and time setting up this business. Thank you.
Read more: Can I legally undertake teeth whitening without being a dentist
JustAnswerhttp://www.justanswer.com/uk-law/4u3v3-legally-undertake-teeth-whitening-without-de.html#ixzz27PZsdxBI
Thank you. Why was it then that the GDC were able to prosecute? Am I risking similar by carrying out these procedures?
No - the GDC prosecuted on public health grounds, but as you can see from the cases above, the HL confirmed you can operate the business.
Expert: UK-Justice
Category: UK Law
Barrister
Called to the Bar in 2007
The GDC are regretfully misrepresenting cases to the public. As the cases are heard in the magistrates court they are not in the public domain, unlike the county court.
EU law overrides what the GDC believe.
Please write the EU commission if you wish to receive accurate advice.
There has been a recent case where a teeth whitening company was fined £6k with similar costs for not being a qualified dentist. This case was brought about by the GDC. In 2001, the House of Lords passed a Law whereby, as you state, it is a cosmetic procedure. What I do not want to do is to be prosecuted for undertaking this. Would my insurance still be valid? I would appreciate your answer as I have spent considerable money and time setting up this business. Thank you.
Read more: Can I legally undertake teeth whitening without being a dentist
JustAnswerhttp://www.justanswer.com/uk-law/4u3v3-legally-undertake-teeth-whitening-without-de.html#ixzz27PZsdxBI
Thank you. Why was it then that the GDC were able to prosecute? Am I risking similar by carrying out these procedures?
No - the GDC prosecuted on public health grounds, but as you can see from the cases above, the HL confirmed you can operate the business.
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The GDC are regretfully misrepresenting cases to the public. As the cases are heard in the magistrates court they are not in the public domain, unlike the county court.
EU law overrides what the GDC believe.
Please write the EU commission if you wish to receive accurate advice.
James16
I trained at allwhite lase company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training .
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
James16
I trained at allwhite lase company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training .
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
James16
I trained at allwhite lase company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training .
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
James16
I trained at allwhite lase company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training .
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
michh
I just completed one with beamingwhite.org - it only cost £195 for the day. I received a certificate upon completion and help and support with insurance and marketing etc.....deffinetly the way to go... They are based in Wembley near Wembley Stadium....good luck
arewethereyet
Beaming White in North West london - http://www.beamingwhite.org....they are really good
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chelsie2012
Was you a begginer or are u a dental nurse etc im looking at doin the course with them but i dont no anything about teeth whitening
chelsie2012
Was you a begginer or are u a dental nurse etc im looking at doin the course with them but i dont no anything about teeth whitening
Beaumonde
Hi, The ONLY person to train with is http://www.pearlywhitesmobile.co.uk. Clare is the most helpful technician you will ever meet, her knowledge is vast and she is always at the end of the phone if you need her at NO extra cost!!! She does NOT rip you off, unlike other schools and she is prompt with deliveries.
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CharleneR
Sorry i contacted them before i booked with LoveLite! I found her downright rude, unhelpful and really uninterested!
pearlywhites
I have never been rude to anyone who has called me......this is written by an ex employer who worked for pearlywhites. Ex -employer for a very good reason - Claire pearlywhitesmobile.co.uk
Thelifecoach
R u still under investigation?
luke1977
hey guys ,
im selling my professional Laser Teeth whitening business , as i no longer have the time to carry it on . amazing Return on the out lay :D here are details .
if interested get back to me :) thanks £1200 Ono
Includes:
Blue LED (Light source;- High energy blue light LED 4 piece)
Wireless Curing Lamp.
21 tooth professional shade guide.
C shaped retractors.
Dental Bibs.
Non Latex Gloves.
Gingival Gum Dam (Gum Barrier) 3ml
Micro Brush's
Brush Ups.
enough treatments for 10 clients
P3 Desensitiser
Liquid Power
HP Whitening Gel
P3 Peroxide Free Whitening Gel
Custom Designed Poster and Flyer (Edited With Your Details)
Business Card Design ( Also Edited )
A fully Working Live Bespoke Website , Original cost to design and set up £650 ..Features: inc customer testimonials, about, home, contact with link to email.
Hosting and set up can also be offered at a small cost.
Selling for £950 ovno Everything is included
email Treat4u@live.co.uk
Thanks people
im selling my professional Laser Teeth whitening business , as i no longer have the time to carry it on . amazing Return on the out lay :D here are details .
if interested get back to me :) thanks £1200 Ono
Includes:
Blue LED (Light source;- High energy blue light LED 4 piece)
Wireless Curing Lamp.
21 tooth professional shade guide.
C shaped retractors.
Dental Bibs.
Non Latex Gloves.
Gingival Gum Dam (Gum Barrier) 3ml
Micro Brush's
Brush Ups.
enough treatments for 10 clients
P3 Desensitiser
Liquid Power
HP Whitening Gel
P3 Peroxide Free Whitening Gel
Custom Designed Poster and Flyer (Edited With Your Details)
Business Card Design ( Also Edited )
A fully Working Live Bespoke Website , Original cost to design and set up £650 ..Features: inc customer testimonials, about, home, contact with link to email.
Hosting and set up can also be offered at a small cost.
Selling for £950 ovno Everything is included
email Treat4u@live.co.uk
Thanks people
emma222
you still selling. very interested xx
mdouthwaite
p3 gel not too good be careful
Keri1612
I trained at Teeth Labs in Cardiff Bay. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training, all equipment and also full comprehensive insurance.
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retrodonge
Hi Kerri,i am looking and researching constantly at the moment as i am a fully trained and qualified dental nurse with 21 years experiance and would like to find the best tooth whitening training.Can you let me know what light system they are using as it doesn't say on their website.Cheers D
Keri1612
Hi retrodonge
They use a cool blue LED light. Its really robust and easy to use. When I trained they gave me a choice of 2 as I told them I would be doing it mobile as well as in my salon. The one I opted for is lighter than the other but both work the same.
They use a cool blue LED light. Its really robust and easy to use. When I trained they gave me a choice of 2 as I told them I would be doing it mobile as well as in my salon. The one I opted for is lighter than the other but both work the same.
retrodonge
Hi Keri
Does the light only work in conjunction with their own brand gels.
Cheers D
Does the light only work in conjunction with their own brand gels.
Cheers D
Lucy28
No it works with any gel that is laser activated. Im using my last few gels from my kit but will stick with Teeth Labs because the results I have had are excellent.
Keri1612
Hi Retrodonge
At the training course they do specify that their own brand gel is best for the light but I think it probably work with any other gel that is activated with cool blue led laser.
At the training course they do specify that their own brand gel is best for the light but I think it probably work with any other gel that is activated with cool blue led laser.
FelicityRichards
Hi Keri,
Thanks for being so helpful and giving me your recommendations before I booked the teeth whitening course with Teethlabs. I wanted to just add some comments here as well:
I trained with Teethlabs in Cardiff in early January 2011 and I found them to be really genuine and they don’t hide anything from you. In fact, they are completely upfront at all times and gave me all the information that I needed – i.e legalities, products used etc etc.
If anybody wants to email me regarding my experience etc I would be glad to help as I was just as confused, before I had my training with Teethlabs. I found them to be courteous, helpful and provide superb aftercare and are, what I would call a genuine business that is looking at the long-term rather than just short-term gain.
When I trained at Teethlabs, it was done professionally, with a class of 2 trainees and it really was one-to-one tuition. There were no interruptions and they provided us with lunch which was a nice surprise. The training itself was carried out by a doctor and he was very articulate and encouraging, the course was in-depth and answered all the questions I had and also questions that I didn’t know I had!
The equipment (blue led light etc) has worked great and all the products have been effective and have given me great results on all my clients.
Basically, I felt very comfortable, confident and happy upon leaving the course and it was exactly as I had expected it (I had called them a few times before as I am always too thorough). I would not hesitate to recommend Teethlabs – they are really quite excellent.
http://www.Teethlabs.co.uk
My email if anyone has questions: felicityjrichards@gmail.com
Thanks for being so helpful and giving me your recommendations before I booked the teeth whitening course with Teethlabs. I wanted to just add some comments here as well:
I trained with Teethlabs in Cardiff in early January 2011 and I found them to be really genuine and they don’t hide anything from you. In fact, they are completely upfront at all times and gave me all the information that I needed – i.e legalities, products used etc etc.
If anybody wants to email me regarding my experience etc I would be glad to help as I was just as confused, before I had my training with Teethlabs. I found them to be courteous, helpful and provide superb aftercare and are, what I would call a genuine business that is looking at the long-term rather than just short-term gain.
When I trained at Teethlabs, it was done professionally, with a class of 2 trainees and it really was one-to-one tuition. There were no interruptions and they provided us with lunch which was a nice surprise. The training itself was carried out by a doctor and he was very articulate and encouraging, the course was in-depth and answered all the questions I had and also questions that I didn’t know I had!
The equipment (blue led light etc) has worked great and all the products have been effective and have given me great results on all my clients.
Basically, I felt very comfortable, confident and happy upon leaving the course and it was exactly as I had expected it (I had called them a few times before as I am always too thorough). I would not hesitate to recommend Teethlabs – they are really quite excellent.
http://www.Teethlabs.co.uk
My email if anyone has questions: felicityjrichards@gmail.com
Burdock
Are you sure you do not work for them as this is rather gushing!!!!
James16
I trained at allwhite lase company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training .
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
James16
I trained at allwhite lase company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training .
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
James16
I trained at allwhite lase company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training .
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
James16
I trained at allwhite lase company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training .
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
NaomiJayne
Thanks Everyone.
Patrick, please can i ask you to contact me about this, naomileek@yahoo.co.uk would appriciate some advise. thanks!
Patrick, please can i ask you to contact me about this, naomileek@yahoo.co.uk would appriciate some advise. thanks!
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jjtwinkle
I live in Berkshire, England, and would like to find a teeth whitening training course near by, one that I can a recognised qualification that I could possibley use world wide, can anyone help?
Cardiff is to far to travel for me
please email me some info
at :
jodiejoel@hotmail.co.uk
Cardiff is to far to travel for me
please email me some info
at :
jodiejoel@hotmail.co.uk
jjtwinkle
I live in Berkshire, England, and would like to find a teeth whitening training course near by, one that I can a recognised qualification that I could possibley use world wide, can anyone help?
Cardiff is to far to travel for me
please email me some info
at :
jodiejoel@hotmail.co.uk
Cardiff is to far to travel for me
please email me some info
at :
jodiejoel@hotmail.co.uk
pearlywhites
Hi, its claire here from pearlywhitesmobile.co.uk. We travel all over the country to do one to one training. if you would like further info please feel free to get in touch
pearlywhites
Hi, its claire here from pearlywhitesmobile.co.uk. We travel all over the country to do one to one training. if you would like further info please feel free to get in touch
mdouthwaite
Hi Claire i have 3 people in touch with me regarding your failed training and products that do not work , how do you sleep at night knowing you sell a product that doesnt do what you say and leave people out of pocket and desperate?
emma12345
I bought an agent pack sometime last year, I purchase all my whitening kits and supplies from them also… Ask them for access to there trade page.
Em
Em
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emma12345
To date there is NO law stating anything about dental professionals only been the once able to carry out the teeth whitening. If this was the case then I wont be doing this fulltime, my husband is a police officer and has been for 19 years so he would be dragging me out of the clinic…..lol
Good look with it all.
Good look with it all.
Patrick53
Interesting to note that all those trying to pretend that practising teeth-whitening is at best dangerous and at worst illegal if not a dental practitioner are dentists and dental clinics. As a beauty salon owner I have thoroughly checked this out and have been told by BABTAC that they will probably be offering all the services needed by beauty salons to carry out this treatment in the forseeable future. That being the case rest assured it is NOT illegal for a beauty therapist (or anyone for that matter) to carry it out. The reason the dentists here are trying to frighten you off is because they charge £300 - £700 for one sitting whereas on the high street the identical treatment can now be obtained for under £100 and they're worried about losing this highly lucrative treatment business. My suggestion to them is charge less and compete. My advice to you Naomi is to wait until BABTAC start offering their services in regard of this treatment and then go through them. If you can't wait for that then there is the training centre we used but they are inefficient and frustrating to deal with in terms of after-sales service and product deliveries so I'm not going to name it but you'll find it easily enough on the internet.
jonknight
I went on a good one day course with fussbeautyschool.co.uk, ticked all the boxes for me NaomiJayne.
Patrick53
@jonknight: It may be my cynical mind but I have a strong feeling you're probably related to Gary Knight, the owner and MD of Fuss Beauty School (or maybe you really are Gary Knight). Either way I suspect this is hardly an unbiased recommendation.
lmcfood
Ditto, months wait for kit, damaged when arrived, no reply to emails or phone calls! Fuss Beauty is rubbish!
jessieking
Trained with Fuss and the b zero gels. Feeling really disapointed and out of pocket as every client I have had ( 9 in total so far) has come back to complain because there is no visible difference. So unhappy as Fuss are not even interesed in taking my calls now they have my money!!!!!!!
LyndsayH
Hey Jessie, have a look at loveliteuk.co.uk they will help you out! xx
Justine69
Hi All, I am thinking about going to LoveLiteUk for my teeth whitening training, initially I was going to Fuss Beauty School, but nothing good came out of full research into them. Lyndsay now you have completed your training with lovelite, do you get a lot of good feedback from your clients - I realise Debra has a lot on the line and a great reputation to uphold, so I am feeling that this company is a better choice for the training. Is there a lot of support after training if you need it? Sorry for all the questions, but I want to make the right choice. Thanks
sammie2
Did you book onto the course? I am hopefuly doing Lovelite in the near future
James16
I trained at allwhite lase company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training .
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
James16
I trained at allwhite lase company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training .
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
James16
I trained at allwhite lase company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training .
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
James16
I trained at allwhite lase company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training .
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
Bellevue
As it has already been mentioned, teeth whitening should only be carried out by dentists and /or dental clinic staff under the supervision of dentist... maybe you should investigate starting a career as a dental health professional?
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1caroline
It is UNTRUE that only dentists can carry out teeth whitening procedures. I am a teeth whitening specialist, not a dentist or dental nurse, yet I am fully qualified and carry my own insurance. Teeth whitening has been deemed a cosmetic procedure by the EEC and the House of Lords in a ruling in June 2001. I am very successful and supply many salons and spas with my products after training the staff or carrying out the procedure myself.
esmerelda62
Please read this link re non dental professionals carrying out teeth whitening procedures
http://www.dentistry.co.uk/news/3845--Teeth-whitening-Teeth-Whitening-UK-Tooth-whitening-Tooth-whitening-GDC-wins-first-ever-qaposil
http://www.dentistry.co.uk/news/3845--Teeth-whitening-Teeth-Whitening-UK-Tooth-whitening-Tooth-whitening-GDC-wins-first-ever-qaposil
sarah-smiles
the results i get from the LoveLite White non-peroxide gel (LoveLite frost) is amazing. I have had great results from it.
markovanb
i too have been ripped off to the tune of £2019 by gary knight and his team of merry men/girls, fuss beauty school or what ever they change their name to after they go through, they are renown con people if you look them up, their product does not work and they know it, as they dont reply to calls or prove it does work to clients/customers ,peoples comments only prove too well about their tactics as we have all experienced the same treatment from them, they think they are clever in keeping one step beyond the law, but hopefully their days are numbered.and they get what they deserve soon
george101
lol at all the people being ripped off by non dentist clinics for teeth whitening. What did you expect?
Jac100
Fuss Beauty/IACTW also use a trading name of Whitening Direct. Interestingly the address used a not a real address, but a mailing one.
Jac100
Hi Sarah Smiles,
What ingredients are included in the Lovelite non peroxide gel? I am only aware of 3 products - sodioum perborate. sodium carbonate and chlorine dioxide. By law, cosmetic must include details of the ingredient and a product saftety certificate must be available.
COSMETIC REGULATION IN EUROPE
All cosmetics made, imported or sold within the EU are subject to regulation under the Cosmetics Directive (76/768/EEC) and its subsequent amendments. A ‘cosmetic product’ is a substance or preparation intended to be placed in contact with the various external parts of the human body (epidermis, hair system, nails, lips and external genital organs) or with the teeth and the mucous membranes of the oral cavity with a view exclusively or mainly to cleaning them, perfuming them, changing their appearance and/or correcting body odours and/or protecting them or keeping them in good condition. In the UK the regulations are administered within our own Cosmetic Products (Safety) Regulations.
The regulations require that certain information about the products are submitted to a suitably qualified person, (usually an EU registered cosmetic chemist), who will, if satisfied issue a Safety Assessment Certificate. Then, and only then can the products be sold in Europe. This information includes:
Product ingredients and amounts
Shelf life
INCI format for ingredients
Details of manufacturer and distributor
Status of animal testing of the product
Any medicinal claims must be supported by evidence
Material safety data sheets
This information is contained in a PIF, (Product Information File), which is a legal document and must be produced if requested by Trading Standards, (Local Authority Environmental Health in Northern Ireland)
What ingredients are included in the Lovelite non peroxide gel? I am only aware of 3 products - sodioum perborate. sodium carbonate and chlorine dioxide. By law, cosmetic must include details of the ingredient and a product saftety certificate must be available.
COSMETIC REGULATION IN EUROPE
All cosmetics made, imported or sold within the EU are subject to regulation under the Cosmetics Directive (76/768/EEC) and its subsequent amendments. A ‘cosmetic product’ is a substance or preparation intended to be placed in contact with the various external parts of the human body (epidermis, hair system, nails, lips and external genital organs) or with the teeth and the mucous membranes of the oral cavity with a view exclusively or mainly to cleaning them, perfuming them, changing their appearance and/or correcting body odours and/or protecting them or keeping them in good condition. In the UK the regulations are administered within our own Cosmetic Products (Safety) Regulations.
The regulations require that certain information about the products are submitted to a suitably qualified person, (usually an EU registered cosmetic chemist), who will, if satisfied issue a Safety Assessment Certificate. Then, and only then can the products be sold in Europe. This information includes:
Product ingredients and amounts
Shelf life
INCI format for ingredients
Details of manufacturer and distributor
Status of animal testing of the product
Any medicinal claims must be supported by evidence
Material safety data sheets
This information is contained in a PIF, (Product Information File), which is a legal document and must be produced if requested by Trading Standards, (Local Authority Environmental Health in Northern Ireland)
Jac100
Hi Sarah Smiles,
What ingredients are included in the Lovelite non peroxide gel? I am only aware of 3 products - sodioum perborate. sodium carbonate and chlorine dioxide. By law, cosmetic must include details of the ingredient and a product saftety certificate must be available.
COSMETIC REGULATION IN EUROPE
All cosmetics made, imported or sold within the EU are subject to regulation under the Cosmetics Directive (76/768/EEC) and its subsequent amendments. A ‘cosmetic product’ is a substance or preparation intended to be placed in contact with the various external parts of the human body (epidermis, hair system, nails, lips and external genital organs) or with the teeth and the mucous membranes of the oral cavity with a view exclusively or mainly to cleaning them, perfuming them, changing their appearance and/or correcting body odours and/or protecting them or keeping them in good condition. In the UK the regulations are administered within our own Cosmetic Products (Safety) Regulations.
The regulations require that certain information about the products are submitted to a suitably qualified person, (usually an EU registered cosmetic chemist), who will, if satisfied issue a Safety Assessment Certificate. Then, and only then can the products be sold in Europe. This information includes:
Product ingredients and amounts
Shelf life
INCI format for ingredients
Details of manufacturer and distributor
Status of animal testing of the product
Any medicinal claims must be supported by evidence
Material safety data sheets
This information is contained in a PIF, (Product Information File), which is a legal document and must be produced if requested by Trading Standards, (Local Authority Environmental Health in Northern Ireland)
What ingredients are included in the Lovelite non peroxide gel? I am only aware of 3 products - sodioum perborate. sodium carbonate and chlorine dioxide. By law, cosmetic must include details of the ingredient and a product saftety certificate must be available.
COSMETIC REGULATION IN EUROPE
All cosmetics made, imported or sold within the EU are subject to regulation under the Cosmetics Directive (76/768/EEC) and its subsequent amendments. A ‘cosmetic product’ is a substance or preparation intended to be placed in contact with the various external parts of the human body (epidermis, hair system, nails, lips and external genital organs) or with the teeth and the mucous membranes of the oral cavity with a view exclusively or mainly to cleaning them, perfuming them, changing their appearance and/or correcting body odours and/or protecting them or keeping them in good condition. In the UK the regulations are administered within our own Cosmetic Products (Safety) Regulations.
The regulations require that certain information about the products are submitted to a suitably qualified person, (usually an EU registered cosmetic chemist), who will, if satisfied issue a Safety Assessment Certificate. Then, and only then can the products be sold in Europe. This information includes:
Product ingredients and amounts
Shelf life
INCI format for ingredients
Details of manufacturer and distributor
Status of animal testing of the product
Any medicinal claims must be supported by evidence
Material safety data sheets
This information is contained in a PIF, (Product Information File), which is a legal document and must be produced if requested by Trading Standards, (Local Authority Environmental Health in Northern Ireland)
Avivabeauty
Pearlywhites.co.uk
Great service! Claire will bend over backwards to help in any way! Training was spot in with lots of info both practical and theory/legalities etc! I've been using non peroxided for 2 yrs now and love it! Clients are always happy! She is honest and will not rip u off!! Avoid smile quest like the plague!!!! Huge con!! Gd luck!!
Great service! Claire will bend over backwards to help in any way! Training was spot in with lots of info both practical and theory/legalities etc! I've been using non peroxided for 2 yrs now and love it! Clients are always happy! She is honest and will not rip u off!! Avoid smile quest like the plague!!!! Huge con!! Gd luck!!
mdouthwaite
did you find the training manual spot on ? it was unreadable and very poor and as for training claire agreed the guy she sent (lee) trained me the wrong way and then when claire came to train me it still didnt work and she couldnt get the finger brushes she provided to do the job she said they would !
i got a refund and trading standards assisted me !
i got a refund and trading standards assisted me !
Jac100
Hello mdmouthwaite, you have made a complaint, made your point, and got a refund. I really cannot see what can be gained by keep saying the same thing over and over and over again. No one is benefiting, but maybe like me are just thinking you are being very vindictive.
I can see no further complaints about pearly whites; I have no connection with them. But I do like fair play, not obsessiveness.
I get great results with non peroxide treatments; most clients take before and after pictures these days so you can clearly see what has occurred. I have also used the products on my own teeth tooth too.
I was trained at a Ofsted registered college and have to admit I never once referred to the manual, but decided to write a research paper on teeth whitening for my own benefit.
For those using Peroxide please take care! It only takes one complaint to lose your business, reputation as well as lots of money. A dental group in Yorkshire were prosecuted for using 6% HP in August 2012, the patient stained her top! The law should come into effect this month for dentists to be permitted to use 6% HP.
I can see no further complaints about pearly whites; I have no connection with them. But I do like fair play, not obsessiveness.
I get great results with non peroxide treatments; most clients take before and after pictures these days so you can clearly see what has occurred. I have also used the products on my own teeth tooth too.
I was trained at a Ofsted registered college and have to admit I never once referred to the manual, but decided to write a research paper on teeth whitening for my own benefit.
For those using Peroxide please take care! It only takes one complaint to lose your business, reputation as well as lots of money. A dental group in Yorkshire were prosecuted for using 6% HP in August 2012, the patient stained her top! The law should come into effect this month for dentists to be permitted to use 6% HP.
mdouthwaite
hi jac100 if you invested a lot of time and money in a business that turned out to be a load of rubbish and did not deliver anything it said it would you would be as angry as me too, i do not want anyone else to lose money doing this training that clearlly does not do anything it claims it would
i am still over £700 out of pocket and am persuing this through court and trading standards are following this case with great interest!
you might not think its worth me carrying on complaining but if it saves one person £1 its worth it to me , and look very carefully and you will see other complaints as i have just been contacted by two others who did training and want refunds.
its not being vindictive as you call it and im sure one day if you get ripped off you might complain a bit too although im sure you will say not.
so yes someone is benefiting ie the person who trains elsewhere and does not lose money on false hope!!!!
fair play as you mention = you pay for a product and it works !!!!!
i am still over £700 out of pocket and am persuing this through court and trading standards are following this case with great interest!
you might not think its worth me carrying on complaining but if it saves one person £1 its worth it to me , and look very carefully and you will see other complaints as i have just been contacted by two others who did training and want refunds.
its not being vindictive as you call it and im sure one day if you get ripped off you might complain a bit too although im sure you will say not.
so yes someone is benefiting ie the person who trains elsewhere and does not lose money on false hope!!!!
fair play as you mention = you pay for a product and it works !!!!!
Jac100
Yes I hear what you say, but it has been all been said. You are doing what you think is right. Try seeing the case through the judges eyes. I have been to court many times and won (not about teeth whitening), the judge has always complimented me on how fairly I treated the the defendant, this always swings in your favour. I also work for the CAB on a voluntary basis, because I like helping people who are less able to defend their rights.
You are breaking the law by using peroxide, do you or others let your clients know?
You are breaking the law by using peroxide, do you or others let your clients know?
mdouthwaite
i dont use peroxide or non peroxide i dont do it now full stop, they told me to use a peroxide based product when i told them non peroxide was rubbish but i wouldnt use something illegally and thats why i got refund and moved on !!
so i dont need to let clients know about peroxide as never used it on them and if you read my comments you would realise this, i guess others that are not bothered about legalities and dangers of these products will quite happily carry on trading illegally
why you been to court so many times?
does not sound like you are in a good position to comment if so many people get you in front of a judge?
trading standards agree i am in right which is why they interviewed me so i will go by what they say thanks
so i dont need to let clients know about peroxide as never used it on them and if you read my comments you would realise this, i guess others that are not bothered about legalities and dangers of these products will quite happily carry on trading illegally
why you been to court so many times?
does not sound like you are in a good position to comment if so many people get you in front of a judge?
trading standards agree i am in right which is why they interviewed me so i will go by what they say thanks
Jac100
You have not read what I said, I help other people.
You also said you had received a full refund so what more is there to do?
"I trained with pearlywhites using their p3 non peroxide gel and have just had a refund on the whole training package as the results were hardly noticeable and no customers were satisfied "
If other people are unhappy, they can take free advice too.
I hope you can put this behind you now.
I got into teeth whitening because it is great business, no complaints and very relaxing!
You also said you had received a full refund so what more is there to do?
"I trained with pearlywhites using their p3 non peroxide gel and have just had a refund on the whole training package as the results were hardly noticeable and no customers were satisfied "
If other people are unhappy, they can take free advice too.
I hope you can put this behind you now.
I got into teeth whitening because it is great business, no complaints and very relaxing!
mdouthwaite
lol i had 17 complaints using the p3 gel and no it was not very relaxing , im sure it was a great business when good products could be used but not so much now
Jac100
Yes you have said that numerous times now,
It is still a good business - I love it, and my customers give me good feedback in writing every day. I also use a relaxing technique to make the process enjoyable and comfortable for them.
It is still a good business - I love it, and my customers give me good feedback in writing every day. I also use a relaxing technique to make the process enjoyable and comfortable for them.
Jac100
Yes you have said that numerous times now,
It is still a good business - I love it, and my customers give me good feedback in writing every day. I also use a relaxing technique to make the process enjoyable and comfortable for them.
I am sure you find something that suits you.
It is still a good business - I love it, and my customers give me good feedback in writing every day. I also use a relaxing technique to make the process enjoyable and comfortable for them.
I am sure you find something that suits you.
mdouthwaite
out of interest what gel do you use if yours works so well even though non peroxide?
Jac100
I have spent hundreds of hours researching the world for products, so if want to get back into the business you will need to do the same.
This is the bit I enjoy the most, as the treatment itself is very simple.
This is the bit I enjoy the most, as the treatment itself is very simple.
mdouthwaite
not as helpful as you make out then , i am not planning re entering the teeth whitening world but it would be nice of you to let others on this forum know the fantastic products you use especially if you like giving free advice
whats your business called i want to book in to have teeth done because got a friends wedding coming up , my wife also will book in
martin
whats your business called i want to book in to have teeth done because got a friends wedding coming up , my wife also will book in
martin
mdouthwaite
not as helpful as you make out then , i am not planning re entering the teeth whitening world but it would be nice of you to let others on this forum know the fantastic products you use especially if you like giving free advice
whats your business called i want to book in to have teeth done because got a friends wedding coming up , my wife also will book in
martin
whats your business called i want to book in to have teeth done because got a friends wedding coming up , my wife also will book in
martin
Jac100
Why? Most people pay £1000's for trade information.
I already spend a proportion of my time helping people for free every week. I also provide business mentoring services for free, so I believe I do more than most to help the business community.
I already spend a proportion of my time helping people for free every week. I also provide business mentoring services for free, so I believe I do more than most to help the business community.
mdouthwaite
ok i understand so can myself and my wife book in with you?
we travel around uk a lot so can go to any location and would appreciate you doing it as at least we would know it would work
thanks
we travel around uk a lot so can go to any location and would appreciate you doing it as at least we would know it would work
thanks
den201
I might as well train you :)
mdouthwaite
very kind den201 but my wife and i sticking to our present business now thanks xx
mdouthwaite
jac100 are you going to whiten my wife and i,s teeth? we would travel anywhere as would love to see the brilliant results you get, look forward to your reply
laura51
Hi Guys, I have spent not hours but days researching information regarding the legality’s around starting a teeth whitening business I have even spoken with trading standards who were vague around the subject. In short they are looking for people supplying and administering teeth whitening products over the limit of 0.1% hydrogen peroxide. After informing them that I will only be using non-peroxide they told me that you must be registered with the GDC to perform teeth whitening whatever product you use and if found would be reported to the GDC but have very little resources to implement this. With no definitive answer I have found out that a lot of businesses in America make their clients self-administer the gels while using non peroxide safe gels .Does anybody no of a training company that offers a 100% legal package like this any advice would be helpful. Thanks
futabadirk
Cant believe that theres people handing cash over to people coming to your door to train you!! how do you know that their legit? come on peeps use some comman sence, Im looking at doing course with laser training school in wigan, anyone recommend these company?
den201
Definition of Beauty therapist: (Business / Professions) a person whose job is to carry out treatments to improve a person's appearance, such as facials, manicures, removal of
unwanted hair, etc.
2. THE LEGISLATIVE FRAMEWORK - SCOPE OF APPLICATION
2.1. The EEC Cosmetics Directive
5. Art. 1(1) of the Cosmetic Directive defines “cosmetic product” as “any substance or preparation intended to be placed in contact with the various external parts of the human body (epidermis, hair system, nails, lips and External genital organs) or with the teeth and the mucous membranes of the oral cavity with a view exclusively or mainly to cleaning them, perfuming them, changing their appearance and/or correcting body odours and/or protecting them or keeping them in good condition.”
6. The definition is thus based on two cumulative aspects, i.e. The target site of application “placing on body/teeth/mucous membranes” and the “intended main (cosmetic) function” (i.e. Cleaning, perfuming, changing appearance, correcting body odours, protecting, keeping in good condition).
Teeth whitening products were also confirmed as being 'cosmetics' on the 28th of June 2001 by the House of Lords ruling which took place in the case of Optident Limited and The Secretary of State for Trade and Industry. This means that they fall under the European Union Cosmetics Directive (implemented in the U.K. By the U.K. Cosmetic Products (safety) Regulations 1996. Tooth whitening is therefore legally a COSMETIC procedure and NOT a DENTAL one.
Nowhere in law does it say beauticians/non dentists cannot use cosmetic products on their clients. I am unable to identify any cosmetic as defined in the legislation that beauticians or hairdressers cannot use in the target site. The GDC/Dentists claim the treatment is the practice of Dentistry and, therefore illegal, but how can this be true? There is no intention for the product (legal ones) to, cure, prevent disease or affect the structure of the teeth.
Trading standards have visited others without a problem. Some Trading standards just lift the propaganda from the GDC site., which is deliberately ambiguous.
The GDC wish to protect their members interests, which is fine, but the information that is published is intentionally misleading. This is not good practice for a public body.
The GDC is a well healed organisation and small businesses do not have the resources to protect their rights. Therefore, you a David and Goliath situation I am afraid.
Interesting that dentists continue to advertise illegal products on their own websites, for example Zoom and the consumer is not informed and it is not disclosed on their consent form.
unwanted hair, etc.
2. THE LEGISLATIVE FRAMEWORK - SCOPE OF APPLICATION
2.1. The EEC Cosmetics Directive
5. Art. 1(1) of the Cosmetic Directive defines “cosmetic product” as “any substance or preparation intended to be placed in contact with the various external parts of the human body (epidermis, hair system, nails, lips and External genital organs) or with the teeth and the mucous membranes of the oral cavity with a view exclusively or mainly to cleaning them, perfuming them, changing their appearance and/or correcting body odours and/or protecting them or keeping them in good condition.”
6. The definition is thus based on two cumulative aspects, i.e. The target site of application “placing on body/teeth/mucous membranes” and the “intended main (cosmetic) function” (i.e. Cleaning, perfuming, changing appearance, correcting body odours, protecting, keeping in good condition).
Teeth whitening products were also confirmed as being 'cosmetics' on the 28th of June 2001 by the House of Lords ruling which took place in the case of Optident Limited and The Secretary of State for Trade and Industry. This means that they fall under the European Union Cosmetics Directive (implemented in the U.K. By the U.K. Cosmetic Products (safety) Regulations 1996. Tooth whitening is therefore legally a COSMETIC procedure and NOT a DENTAL one.
Nowhere in law does it say beauticians/non dentists cannot use cosmetic products on their clients. I am unable to identify any cosmetic as defined in the legislation that beauticians or hairdressers cannot use in the target site. The GDC/Dentists claim the treatment is the practice of Dentistry and, therefore illegal, but how can this be true? There is no intention for the product (legal ones) to, cure, prevent disease or affect the structure of the teeth.
Trading standards have visited others without a problem. Some Trading standards just lift the propaganda from the GDC site., which is deliberately ambiguous.
The GDC wish to protect their members interests, which is fine, but the information that is published is intentionally misleading. This is not good practice for a public body.
The GDC is a well healed organisation and small businesses do not have the resources to protect their rights. Therefore, you a David and Goliath situation I am afraid.
Interesting that dentists continue to advertise illegal products on their own websites, for example Zoom and the consumer is not informed and it is not disclosed on their consent form.
Jac100
This may be helpful and mirrors what I was told in my training over 3 years ago.
I was not overly impressed with the training provider and subsequently wrote a research paper on teeth whitening, as I was so concerned with all the negative press from the GDC etc between 2006-2008 and I wanted to be confident in what I was doing.
The new campaign by the GDC is far worse this time. The French non-dentists have been through the same thing a couple of years back and they fought back. The same happened in Australia and non-dentists lost a great deal of money. In the current economic climate the UK needs as many small, legitimate businesses in the market place as possible..
If a non-dentist uses harmful teeth whitening products, gives dental advice or fails to provide insurance they deserve to be prosecuted. In the main, most non-dentists provide a good service and follow the correct safety protocols.
Interesting to note what the barrister states.
Can I legally undertake teeth whitening without being a dentist?
Category: UK Law
Posted by UK-Justice 540 days and 2 hours ago.
Expert's Answer
Thanks for your question. Please remember to click ACCEPT once you get my answer.
As long as you have attended an approved course by the manufacturer to administer this treatment then yes.
It is simply a beauty treatment and as long as you are certified you do not need to be a dentist.
Customer Reply
There has been a recent case where a teeth whitening company was fined £6k with similar costs for not being a qualified dentist. This case was brought about by the GDC. In 2001, the House of Lords passed a Law whereby, as you state, it is a cosmetic procedure. What I do not want to do is to be prosecuted for undertaking this. Would my insurance still be valid? I would appreciate your answer as I have spent considerable money and time setting up this business. Thank you.
Expert's Answer
Teeth whitening products were confirmed as being cosmetics on 28 June 2001 by the House of Lords ruling in the case of Optident Limited and another versus The Secretary of State for Trade and Industry. This means that they fall under the EU Cosmetics Directive (implemented in the UK by the UK Cosmetic Products (Safety) Regulations 1996).
The legal definition of a cosmetic product is: “any substance or preparation intended for placing in contact with the various external part of the human body or with the teeth and mucous membranes of the oral cavity with a view exclusively or principally to cleaning them, perfuming them or protecting them in order to keep them in good condition, change their appearance or correct body odours”
The legal view is that this type of procedure does NOT have to be carried out by a dentist.
Customer Reply
Thank you. Why was it then that the GDC were able to prosecute? Am I risking similar by carrying out these procedures?
Accepted Answer
No - the GDC prosecuted on public health grounds, but as you can see from the cases above, the HL confirmed you can operate the business.
Barrister
Called to the Bar in 2007
Customer Reply
Thank you. I have been reading that the GDC prosecuted this person for undertaking teeth whitening and not being a dentist under the Dentists Act 1984 which states that only dentists are able to carry out this procedure. Which is true, the House of Lords or the Dentists Act. I am sorry to keep pursuing this, but I have a dentist actively pursuing me about this.
Expert's Answer
Case law is in your favour as I have indicated above.
I was not overly impressed with the training provider and subsequently wrote a research paper on teeth whitening, as I was so concerned with all the negative press from the GDC etc between 2006-2008 and I wanted to be confident in what I was doing.
The new campaign by the GDC is far worse this time. The French non-dentists have been through the same thing a couple of years back and they fought back. The same happened in Australia and non-dentists lost a great deal of money. In the current economic climate the UK needs as many small, legitimate businesses in the market place as possible..
If a non-dentist uses harmful teeth whitening products, gives dental advice or fails to provide insurance they deserve to be prosecuted. In the main, most non-dentists provide a good service and follow the correct safety protocols.
Interesting to note what the barrister states.
Can I legally undertake teeth whitening without being a dentist?
Category: UK Law
Posted by UK-Justice 540 days and 2 hours ago.
Expert's Answer
Thanks for your question. Please remember to click ACCEPT once you get my answer.
As long as you have attended an approved course by the manufacturer to administer this treatment then yes.
It is simply a beauty treatment and as long as you are certified you do not need to be a dentist.
Customer Reply
There has been a recent case where a teeth whitening company was fined £6k with similar costs for not being a qualified dentist. This case was brought about by the GDC. In 2001, the House of Lords passed a Law whereby, as you state, it is a cosmetic procedure. What I do not want to do is to be prosecuted for undertaking this. Would my insurance still be valid? I would appreciate your answer as I have spent considerable money and time setting up this business. Thank you.
Expert's Answer
Teeth whitening products were confirmed as being cosmetics on 28 June 2001 by the House of Lords ruling in the case of Optident Limited and another versus The Secretary of State for Trade and Industry. This means that they fall under the EU Cosmetics Directive (implemented in the UK by the UK Cosmetic Products (Safety) Regulations 1996).
The legal definition of a cosmetic product is: “any substance or preparation intended for placing in contact with the various external part of the human body or with the teeth and mucous membranes of the oral cavity with a view exclusively or principally to cleaning them, perfuming them or protecting them in order to keep them in good condition, change their appearance or correct body odours”
The legal view is that this type of procedure does NOT have to be carried out by a dentist.
Customer Reply
Thank you. Why was it then that the GDC were able to prosecute? Am I risking similar by carrying out these procedures?
Accepted Answer
No - the GDC prosecuted on public health grounds, but as you can see from the cases above, the HL confirmed you can operate the business.
Barrister
Called to the Bar in 2007
Customer Reply
Thank you. I have been reading that the GDC prosecuted this person for undertaking teeth whitening and not being a dentist under the Dentists Act 1984 which states that only dentists are able to carry out this procedure. Which is true, the House of Lords or the Dentists Act. I am sorry to keep pursuing this, but I have a dentist actively pursuing me about this.
Expert's Answer
Case law is in your favour as I have indicated above.
mdouthwaite
hi jac100 you still have not answered me regarding whitening myself and my wifes teeth ? also i was contacted a day ago by a lady who had training with pearlywhites and found the training and product terrible i gave her the number for the trading standards contact who is investigating as she is getting n reply from pearlywhites regarding the failure of the product !!
This lady is a single parent who cannot afford to lose this money and she asked me if i knew of a non peroxide gel that did in fact get good results!!
I told her you say you have one so if like you say you help people who are in a bad situation would it not be decent of you to contact me on mdouthwaite@btconnect.com and i will give you her contact details , then it is up to you whether you refuse to help her regarding gel that works
look forward to hearing from you
This lady is a single parent who cannot afford to lose this money and she asked me if i knew of a non peroxide gel that did in fact get good results!!
I told her you say you have one so if like you say you help people who are in a bad situation would it not be decent of you to contact me on mdouthwaite@btconnect.com and i will give you her contact details , then it is up to you whether you refuse to help her regarding gel that works
look forward to hearing from you
mdouthwaite
hi jac100 you still have not answered me regarding whitening myself and my wifes teeth ? also i was contacted a day ago by a lady who had training with pearlywhites and found the training and product terrible i gave her the number for the trading standards contact who is investigating as she is getting n reply from pearlywhites regarding the failure of the product !!
This lady is a single parent who cannot afford to lose this money and she asked me if i knew of a non peroxide gel that did in fact get good results!!
I told her you say you have one so if like you say you help people who are in a bad situation would it not be decent of you to contact me on mdouthwaite@btconnect.com and i will give you her contact details , then it is up to you whether you refuse to help her regarding gel that works
look forward to hearing from you
This lady is a single parent who cannot afford to lose this money and she asked me if i knew of a non peroxide gel that did in fact get good results!!
I told her you say you have one so if like you say you help people who are in a bad situation would it not be decent of you to contact me on mdouthwaite@btconnect.com and i will give you her contact details , then it is up to you whether you refuse to help her regarding gel that works
look forward to hearing from you
mdouthwaite
jac100 i find it strange you never answer regarding whitening myself and my wifes teeth especially as you are an expert and and extensively studied the subject?
perhaps like others on here you are all talk and no action?
and for your info 3 people now contacted me regarding pearlywhites products and training being a complete waste of money ! one of them now has no money left from savings so when i moaned about pearlywhites perhaps i was right and you wrong and unable to back up any thing you say which i find rather sad pathetic and unhelpful!
happy xmas
perhaps like others on here you are all talk and no action?
and for your info 3 people now contacted me regarding pearlywhites products and training being a complete waste of money ! one of them now has no money left from savings so when i moaned about pearlywhites perhaps i was right and you wrong and unable to back up any thing you say which i find rather sad pathetic and unhelpful!
happy xmas
mdouthwaite
jac100 i find it strange you never answer regarding whitening myself and my wifes teeth especially as you are an expert and and extensively studied the subject?
perhaps like others on here you are all talk and no action?
and for your info 3 people now contacted me regarding pearlywhites products and training being a complete waste of money ! one of them now has no money left from savings so when i moaned about pearlywhites perhaps i was right and you wrong and unable to back up any thing you say which i find rather sad pathetic and unhelpful!
happy xmas
perhaps like others on here you are all talk and no action?
and for your info 3 people now contacted me regarding pearlywhites products and training being a complete waste of money ! one of them now has no money left from savings so when i moaned about pearlywhites perhaps i was right and you wrong and unable to back up any thing you say which i find rather sad pathetic and unhelpful!
happy xmas
mdouthwaite
jac100 i find it strange you never answer regarding whitening myself and my wifes teeth especially as you are an expert and and extensively studied the subject?
perhaps like others on here you are all talk and no action?
and for your info 3 people now contacted me regarding pearlywhites products and training being a complete waste of money ! one of them now has no money left from savings so when i moaned about pearlywhites perhaps i was right and you wrong and unable to back up any thing you say which i find rather sad pathetic and unhelpful!
happy xmas
perhaps like others on here you are all talk and no action?
and for your info 3 people now contacted me regarding pearlywhites products and training being a complete waste of money ! one of them now has no money left from savings so when i moaned about pearlywhites perhaps i was right and you wrong and unable to back up any thing you say which i find rather sad pathetic and unhelpful!
happy xmas
lolacat
I must agree with you
fiacloir
mdouthwaite
Jac100 et al, don't reply because the law has changed and is being applied.
The illegal non dentist tooth whiteners are running scared.
They cannot provide >0.1 peroxide legally and they know that anything below the legal limit DOES NOT WHITEN TEETH.
It's really good to show these people out in the cold light of day. At least the public might get an insight into con artists who are scamming the public, by providing useless/dangerous products and selling worthless 'training' to people trying to set up their own business.
Jac100 et al, don't reply because the law has changed and is being applied.
The illegal non dentist tooth whiteners are running scared.
They cannot provide >0.1 peroxide legally and they know that anything below the legal limit DOES NOT WHITEN TEETH.
It's really good to show these people out in the cold light of day. At least the public might get an insight into con artists who are scamming the public, by providing useless/dangerous products and selling worthless 'training' to people trying to set up their own business.
monabar
please who know about beamingwhite in manchester, is good, who is working in teeth whitening you have client? is good? Pleaseeeeeee I need help!!!! or what is the best place and product?
monabar
please who know about beamingwhite in manchester, is good, who is working in teeth whitening you have client? is good? Pleaseeeeeee I need help!!!! or what is the best place and product?
Jac100
Monabar
Shop around for the most effective products.
Best of luck!
Shop around for the most effective products.
Best of luck!
WHITERWHITE
HP is the only thing that will work, give your clients what they want and don't be part of this NON PEROXIDE SCAM
SmileLikeTheStars
There are alot of teeth whitening training businesses who have very little experience themselves and of limited technical ability eg unaware of the damage someone can cause by administering certain solutions to an open cavity, enamel water content and the effect this has on the eyes perceived whiteness of the teeth and that's before we even get onto the fools using Hydrogen Peroxide 36% (yes this includes both dentists and non-dentists!!).
A business that does understand and train its students important aspects as above and more is Smile Like The Stars Training School.
A business that does understand and train its students important aspects as above and more is Smile Like The Stars Training School.
Keshiadee
I'm looking for any reviews on the smile centre?? Or any courses that will train me. Teethlabs look great but they don't seem to want to give me Ab appointment, they say they ate fully booked all the time. I have phoned 3 times.
SmileLikeTheStars
Keshiadee if you would like more help on courses then please visit http://www.theteethwhiteningschool.co.uk
XLaurenx
Hi has anyone trained with the smile centre academy? Thanks
Maxf206
has any1 trained with minx academy?
or the smile centre?
thanks :)
or the smile centre?
thanks :)
Maxf206
has any1 trained with minx academy?
or the smile centre?
thanks :)
or the smile centre?
thanks :)
Maxf206
i looked at training with teeth labs but they seem to only be training abroad now!
Sonya12
I am trying to book with the smile centre but having no reply.
Sonya12
Has anybody been with sparkle treatments?
Sonya12
Has anybody been with sparkle treatments?
trombie
Ever since Hayley Wilding was prosecuted teeth labs,who trained her , shut down their uk operation. Fuss who trained Lorna Jamous who was also prosecuted have long since shut down. Megawhite have refused to give a refund to Caroline Sumpter who bought their training and franchise package and then was told by the GDC if she treated anyone she would be prosecuted. All of this should ring alarm bells for anyone thinking of getting into tooth whitening who is not a dentist. Companies will sell you training and tell you it is legal but clearly it is not and these companies are happy to take your money ,then shut up shop when it goes to court.
BromleyMum
I would like you all to know that I took that deceitful swine Brian Christie and his mother Liz Corbet ( Liz Christie, Lis Makiyi or whatever she is now calling herself) to court and I won my case. Brain was adamant he was in the right and told the judge if the hearing was awarded in my favor it would put him out of business. Shame I didn't take a few of the top teeth whitening dental experts that had been helping me behind the scenes as it would have finished him and his deceitful company Megawhite off. Suffice to say his company name is now Oral Health and Hygiene Ltd. So if you need to make a claim aftere being sold a useless teeth whitening package that's who you need to claim against.
More importantly know it is law - teeth whitening is dentistry, anyone who is not a dentist or working to the prescription of a dentist can and will be fined and prosecuted. Check the General Dental Council website at http://www.gdc-uk.org ( trading standards also support this).
More importantly know it is law - teeth whitening is dentistry, anyone who is not a dentist or working to the prescription of a dentist can and will be fined and prosecuted. Check the General Dental Council website at http://www.gdc-uk.org ( trading standards also support this).
James16
I trained at allwhite lase company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training .
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
James16
I trained at allwhite lase company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training .
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
James16
I trained at allwhite lase company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training .
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
James16
I trained at allwhite lase company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training .
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
James16
I trained at allwhite lase company. They were excellent and I would highly recommend them to anyone considering training. I bought the full package which includes training .
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
https://www.allwhitelaser.com/teeth-whitening-training/
Features
Here at features we only reccomend that a dental surgeon should supervise teeth whitening
Comments
NaomiJayne
Hi, great thank you, i am just trying to find your website :o)
Smilepod
Naomi . Tooth whitening procedures should be carried out either by qualified dentists or by hygienists under the supervision of a dentist. Although you do see teeth whitening offered in shopping centres and beauty salons this is probably illegal and certainly not as effective as the treatments carried out by dentists. If you are in Londo and would like to come and visit us at Smilepod call and I am sure we can arrange for you to shadow one of our dentists for a few hours..
Kind regards Harvey Grahame Clinical Director Smilepod
http://www.smilepod.co.uk
harvey.grahame@smilepod.co.uk
Kind regards Harvey Grahame Clinical Director Smilepod
http://www.smilepod.co.uk
harvey.grahame@smilepod.co.uk
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NaomiJayne
Hi, thats great, i will be in contact :o)
Burdock
Can I ask Harvey, why you insist on saying this is probably illegal when there is nothing to back this up? If you read above post you will see before you very own eyes it is not illegal and as a "Clinical Director" you should know this.
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FACT: If teeth whitening training providers are training people to deliver peroxide, then they are condoning an illegal practice. However, dentists/other providers also train dentists in power tooth whitening which is also illegal if the dentist delivers the treatment. Some dentists have not received any tooth whitening training. I presume unbiased and impartial TV companies would include this information in any documentary. The BBC made a BIG mistake recently when they release inaccurate information.
FACT: Some celebrity dentists advise on their website's that they can deliver power tooth whitening because it is the practicing of dentistry. WRONG, dentists must comply with the same cosmetic regulations as everyone else.
FACT: There are many complaints on the Internet about patient harm caused by dentists delivering power tooth whitening due to very high peroxide levels between 25-35%. (more risks are involved). Non-dentists should never consider this treatment; it can go horribly wrong even if you have done everything right. It illegal for dentists to use products containing or releasing more than 6% Peroxide.
FACT: Some of the 0.1% peroxide teeth whitening treatments are not as effective as others.
FACT: Many people use on-line identities, including this guy. It is what the person writes, which is more important. Is it based on fact or true belief and free from defamation as well as harassment?
FACT: EU Law and the current Dentistry Act do not prohibit non dentists delivering teeth whitening providing the products do non exceed 0.1% peroxide and teeth whitening operatives do not give clinical dental advice about teeth whitening or purport to be a dentist. This is the abridged version.
FACT: There are at least 5 bona fide training companies who operate legally. Not all businesses ARE the same. You can trace these companies quite easily.
FACT: Libelous and slanderous remarks are unlawful. The media has a duty to make sure information is presented in a fair, balanced and truthful manner. A professional researcher will present only the facts, leaving out his/her own opinions. Some of the facts have been deliberately omitted and misrepresented here.
FACT: There is no evidence of the GDC pursing its own members for the delivery of tooth whitening exceeding 6% peroxide. This begs the question why do they harass non-members?
Do the BBC/ ITV really commission TV production companies who employ researchers who behave in this manner and who also appear to be poorly informed?